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Author Topic: AMA, i was a developer in Polybius
SavannahDJ
Retired game developer

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posted 01-04-2002 01:42 AM     Profile for SavannahDJ   Email SavannahDJ     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hello everyone, i was one of the developers in the now lost videogame Poly-bius(added a - so the link is indexed, search engines detect the word polybius and don't include it in the results). I worked in Atari, and in 1980 we where asked to make a videogame that convined vector and pixel based graphics to create an experience that adapted itself to the players. You can ask any questions about it. To verify that i am in fact a developer i uploaded a video containing gameplay to download.
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Rhindle The Red
Atari Pro III
Making people laugh is the lowest form of comedy.

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posted 01-04-2002 02:42 AM     Profile for Rhindle The Red   Author's Homepage   Email Rhindle The Red     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I dont rly believe the leyend, but here are some questions

  • why make a videogame that adapts itself to the player?
  • how many people worked on the game?
  • why the name polybius?
  • did the game have anything to do with the military??

All the "made by the military to control kids to go to war* bs makes the veracity of existence of the game very very rare

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Philip R. Frey
a.k.a. "Rhindle The Red"

"...and there is Rhindle, the Red Dragon, who is the most ferocious of all."


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bangles66
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posted 01-04-2002 07:30 PM     Profile for bangles66   Author's Homepage   Email bangles66     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
*how* did the game control people? i'm tired of this copypasta shitty history


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Rhindle The Red
Atari Pro III
Making people laugh is the lowest form of comedy.

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posted 01-04-2002 08:04 PM     Profile for Rhindle The Red   Author's Homepage   Email Rhindle The Red     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bangles66:

*how* did the game control people? i'm tired of this copypasta shitty history



So am I. To internet is starting to be filled with fake histories

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Philip R. Frey
a.k.a. "Rhindle The Red"

"...and there is Rhindle, the Red Dragon, who is the most ferocious of all."


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liquid_sky
High Atarian
The positive aspect of negative thinking

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posted 01-04-2002 08:50 PM     Profile for liquid_sky   Author's Homepage   Email liquid_sky     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I personally believe the game maybe was real, but i didn't have all the others things mentioned on this thread

So i have a few questions: Are you allowed to talk to about the game? If not, is this the reason the game isn't talked very much? What is the objective of making a game like this?

I could go supersonic, the problems chronic, tell me, does life exist beyond it?


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SavannahDJ
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posted 01-21-2002 04:35 PM     Profile for SavannahDJ   Email SavannahDJ     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I will respond the questions i think are the most relevant:
  • I was one of the lead developer in the game, but only for a short time, because we all got changed from project some months later in development
  • We where 5 people initially
  • Polybius means many lives, the game changed when you died, adapting to your skills, so thats why i think the name was choosen, also maybe an inside joke? An internal production code? Maybe it was that
  • I don't really know if it had ties with the military, it was a very messy time at Atari. They got at us one day and said something like: "You need to make a videogame named Polybius that changed between every player", to make to the demands we had to give the game concience.
  • In my opinion, the games was never supposed to be released, it was a experiment to the idea of a machine adapting to a person and without them knowing changing their opinion of things. I believe the machine got to an arcade by a error, it was never meant for that. And for that reason a day later it was taken away never to be seen again. So the objective was only to test the limits of controlling people using audiovisual mediums.
  • The game isn't "talked much" because it was present only one day in the arcades, from what i have been told(not very much), an accident happened and the game was quickly taken away after the authorities found out it wasn't where it was supposed to be.
  • There was one person in the team, i think the most talented one, he was the one that pushed the most the conscience and adapting to players thing. He after testing the machine with various tasks was so scared with the results that later he quit his job and never talked with us again. Weird stuff
  • You may ask, how did this game affect the human syquis? Well, we had a database of all the people that lived in the area that the game was runned on, in this case, a very rural part of Oregon. The game used facial reconicion to detect them, and get their name, age, etc. The game used an intelligent program that used that data to manipulate the player. Just imagine what it could have done with the data that the internet holds! Amazing, but terrifying at the same time. Did you know that you can affect the brain of a person indirectly? You don't need any special tools, just the right messages to tick a certain part of their brains, and thats what Polybius did.

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SavannahDJ
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posted 01-21-2002 04:46 PM     Profile for SavannahDJ   Email SavannahDJ     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Those months i was developing the game were the most stressing months of my life, i had never done anything like that before. Every week "control people" entered the office and checked if everything was all right, and talked to us about how our mental health was important etc. To respond to the veracity claims, here is a link to the rom, but encrypted in a .zip file, good luck! [enter mega link]
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Raccoon Lad
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posted 01-21-2002 04:47 PM     Profile for Raccoon Lad   Author's Homepage   Email Raccoon Lad     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
There's also an awesome song about Mr. Do! called Mr. Do! we love you! you can get it here!

* The Most Powerfull Raccoon In The Universe's Website *


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Lemmi
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posted 01-21-2002 04:51 PM     Profile for Lemmi   Email Lemmi     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Raccoon Lad:
There's also an awesome song about Mr. Do! called Mr. Do! we love you! you can get it here!


hahaha thats great, ive been to that site about 4 different times and i hate when i miss the stupid links to stuff like this

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Noble Kale
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Ghost Rider, Atari Gamer

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posted 01-22-2002 04:28 AM     Profile for Noble Kale   Author's Homepage   Email Noble Kale     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Bad Religion did a song called frogger
You can hear the music from frogger (or I assume so), at the start of the song...

But most people wouldn't appreciate it, cause it's punk/punk rock

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Fretwobbler
Atari Pro II
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posted 01-22-2002 08:52 AM     Profile for Fretwobbler   Email Fretwobbler     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Check out this thread for some 'unplugged' Atariguitari

Adam

~Fretwobbler - This week I will be mostly drinking beer and playing videogames~


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SavannahDJ
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posted 01-23-2002 10:35 PM     Profile for SavannahDJ   Email SavannahDJ     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I know this question isnt really game songs but i was hoping somebody might tell me...in the 80s flick Monster Squad (anybody ever see it but me and my brother?) there was a song that was going "Rock untill you drop...dance untill your heart stops..rock untill you drop..dance till your feet fall off.." etc. and i cant remember the actual name of the song or the group that did it? Uh...anybody know what im talking about and what the right answer is?
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